Don't accept any substitutes for this. (w/ Fr. Stephen De Young)
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I heard this live on LoS and it gave me goosebumps then and it still gives me goosebumps.
Thanks for clipping this crucial part from the last LOS episode.
If you only knew how much I needed to hear this. Thank you.
I see Fr Stephen De Young, I click.
Great message!
Thank you Father. I’m absolutely inquiring orthodox Christianity right now, and I’m close to submitting to the Orthodox Church. I want all that God has for us, but honestly, I’m a little scared of making a mistake, because it’s so different from the protestant and evangelical churches that I’m coming from. My prayer is that God enlighten me in truth and to step out in faith. Thank you for your message. Beautiful.
Whenever we have new people come to our church, and say they are interested in Orthodoxy, I always tell them the same thing. Take it slow, take your time, The Orthodox Church is deep with wisdom, but don't overwhelm yourself. Its easy to get roped in and hit that honeymoon period when Church just feels amazing, but if you go hard in the beginning, you'll get burned out, and then something or someone will irk you, and you'll feel disillusioned with the Church. So, take your time. Read, pray, attend services. But most importantly, know that you're there for Christ and your salvation.
@ Thank you for the wise words. Not only for my sake, but for the sake of my wife also, who has been part of all the abs and flows of
my journey these past 35 years.🙌
I grew up evangelical as well. I’m a catechumen now. It’s a massive paradigm shift that took me years, and it wasn’t just intellectual convincing but circumstances that influenced this direction. Take your time, be prayerful about it.
@@deacont3250it's happening to me right now. The Lent season was becoming too intense for me. Had to stop fasting and decided to take a break from church. So glad I didn't commit to baptism when asked two weeks ago. Feeling relieved.
This is good.
Thank you, father.
One issue with converts I see is they seek, even unconsciously, a refined version of the church they left, a cleaner version of Protestant theology, keeping a compartmentalized view of faith, intellect, life.
I don't know if this is true for myself on an ecclesiastical level, but I certainly agree with the spirit of this.
Sometimes I try to reshape my whole life around the church more than I am actually able, others I just give up and put it all in a box I can "handle." Both ways are self willed. Lord have mercy!
God bless you, Father! What I love about Orthodoxy is how the Saints show us it's a lived way of life, not just ideas. I'm grateful for my evangelical roots they led me here. Thank you for your talks, especially on the whole counsel of God. I also recommend Elder Aimilianos his writings are full of love. I reviewed his short but powerful book On Hope and Repentance here: ruclips.net/video/li2hLcgXg80/видео.html
"You don'thave to do anything" and "God doesn't really love you" is not at all the Chritianity I received. The protestant, evangelical, and baptist churches we attended in the 70s, 80s, and 90's all taught that God loves us dearly, and that we must repent. Some of the largest ministries taught this. The extremes presented here was not my experience growing up. Nor do all have the twisted framework of PSA. Some non denominational churches recognize their is indeed, penal, substitutionary, and atonement language but at no point does God punish the Son. We don't need to lump the heterodox into two categories to present the truth of Orthodoxy.
Not dismissing your view, I appreciate you sharing it, but I didn't take it as Fr Stephen these are the only 2. I may have not understood correctly, but I thought he was saying these are 2 views outside Orthodoxy. I saw it as 2 views out there. No offence meant; just thought I'd give my view. Blessed Lent!
@@OThouTheCentralOrb "What people have received comes in two categories" is what was clearly stated in the video. Blessed lent!
@@JoeyMontego My apologies. I interpreted that as 2 possible views, not a definitive 2 only. I see your view now.
@@OThouTheCentralOrb No apologies needed! Like wise I'm not being dismissive of the Father speaking here, only commenting how vastly different my experience growing up as Christian in America was. God's love and our repentance was a huge deal. Stressing prayer, fasting, devotional life. Yes the heresies were all over the place but there was a struggle to be holy and to endure until the end. My concern is turning away protestants who are ignorant to the truth of orthodoxy because their own experiences are misrepresented.
Is it bad I found the squid game analogy hilarious?