VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

J.A.L. · Dec 22, 2021

felicemastronzo said:
for the way DPC has handled the story so far I find it more hard to see how it could go differently... in chapter 7 the trouple seemed more dead than alive
it's a continuous sneaking around, Josy is specialized in talking bad about Maya when she's absent

DPC wants to keep his patreons happy, so the ending in which the two girls separate will be there for sure, 100%, probably in a way in which MC doesn't look too much like the culprit of this separation (when he clearly is), more certain than the one that the 3 make it through their story, which is very likely, but in my opinion less certain.

I got into the controversy about DPC's progressivism once and it was resolved with the usual barricades, for me BADIK is a porn game and therefore it's not feminist by definition, Maya and Josy's homosexuality is a narrative tool that serves to turn the situation in MC's favour and to have two LIs that even if they aren't are as if they were virgins, and the patreons gloat

We´ll see. It would go against all postmodern political correctness. I know that no screen writer for movies, TV Shows or AAA games in western countries would dare to create a plotline like that one. Otherwise, a lesbian stealing a girl from a man, would be well seen.

BUT... according the poll I created yesterday, everybody (at least here) loves Sage, but Maya not so much...

There are only 85 votes, but the tendency has been clear from the beginning: M&J route is the worst valued among the ones of the main Lis. It´s better valued than Lily and Nicole's ones, but I suspect that the reason is those two characters are not main Lis and there isn't a lot of content for them yet.

Even a 26% of the people would like to get rid of Maya in exchange of the return of a really unimportant character like Mona. I suspect that they would like to get rid of her even without the reward of Mona's return as a potential Li

Josy, on the other hand, doesn´t generate that kind of repulsion.

I don´t know if that feeling is shared in Patreon (the only place that actually matters), but I suspect that, if DPC creates a path in which Tremolo smoothly operates to steal Josy from Maya´s arms, a lot of people would be glad to follow it with no regrets, and even would enjoy with Maya´s tears.

TajaRrR · Dec 22, 2021

PashafromRussia said:
And where did the weed come from on campus? Who sold it? How will the administration look at it if it finds out? Where does the money come from for weed at all? I think yes, she knows that girls smoke weed and she knows that Quinn sells it to HOTs and DIKs.

Why would she care form where weed is and who sells it? There is no problem with campus authorities yet so she don't care. Just like with alcohol it just is there and that's it.
And money for weed comes from selling it, she buys it (for example) for 50 bucks and sells it for 100 boom money and that's it.

felicemastronzo · Dec 22, 2021

J.A.L. said:
We´ll see. It would go against all postmodern political correctness. I know that no screen writer for movies, TV Shows or AAA games in western countries would dare to create a plotline like that one. Otherwise it would be well seen.

BUT... according the poll I created yesterday, everybody (at least here) loves Sage, but Maya not so much... There are only 85 votes, but the tendency has been clear from the beginning: M&J route is the worst valued among the ones of the main Lis. It´s better valued than Lily and Nicole's ones, but I suspect that the reason is those two characters are not main Lis and there isn't a lot of content for them yet.

Even a 26% of the people would like to get rid of Maya in exchange of the return of a really unimportant character like Mona. I suspect that they would like to get rid of her even without the reward of Mona's return as a potential Li Josy, on the other hand, doesn´t generate that kind of repulsion.

I don´t know if that feeling is shared in Patreon (the only place that actually matters), but I suspect that, if DPC creates a path in which Tremolo smoothly operates to steal Josy from Maya´s arms, a lot of people would be glad to follow it with no regrets, and even would enjoy with Maya´s tears.

if the patrons are not attracted by having 2 girls at the same time instead of 1, I would ask myself some questions.

then the liking of the single LI is the most subjective thing that can exist, I like Josy much less than Maya for example

DavDR · Dec 22, 2021

OFT said:
Honestly, the whole "controversial opinion" bit make me think he's actually DavDR.

Drugs are bad, Dude

DavDR · Dec 22, 2021

Ilhares said:
Speaking as one of the people who grew up poor here in the great ol' USA, bullshit. While I was fortunate enough to have central heating, I had several friends who did not. Two different families I know only got their heat from a wood stove in the kitchen, and this was a mere 10 miles from a major metropolitan center.

I grew up in one of the poorest regions in the US, Eastern Kentucky, everyone had central heating.

J.A.L. · Dec 22, 2021

PashafromRussia said:
Quinn was selling drugs and girls long before Sage's problems with Chad. Lol, girls go to the men's room in the dining room all the time, could Sage have any questions? It's really shitty written. The second moment Sage voluntarily gave all the power to Quinn. Heather even wonders where their membership fees are spent. I
n fact, there are a lot of strange things with Sage.

She accepted Lily, who works as a stripper in Pink Rose and obviously can provide services of an intimate nature for money. Sage knew that there were a lot of sexual tasks in women's Hell Week, for example, blowjob, sex in public and so on. Well, that is, members of the sisterhood can fuck right and left with anyone, but they can't do it for money. This is different.

Quinn was selling drugs and girls AFTER Sage´s problems with Chad started, IMO. We know that Sage was already having problems with Chad two school years ago, when Tommy and Rusty were creating the DIKs. Probably they were starting dating those days. Quinn probably was whoring herself and selling drugs since high school, but the expansion of her business started last school year, when Riona joints the HOTs, according the conversation Quinn and Riona have during the first chapter. And it´s only this year, with the new girls and Mona´s renounce, that Quinn´s business has become into something that can actually draw attention. According Riona, "It was easier last year", so the previous school year they didn´t have any problem that could draw attention.

Lily is not doing something illegal working as stripper, and if she provides ilegal services of an intimate nature for money there, is Pink Rose´s owner problem, not Sage´s. Blowjobs or public sex during hell week or during parties is not an ilegal. Sage wouldn´t get in troubles for it. But Sage, as HOT´s president, indeed would have HUGE problems if Quinn´s drugs and prostitution rings comes to light (or better, when it will come to light), even if she was in the dark about it. So, again, why would she allow that kind of business into her sorority, even with her own father involved? She gain nothing with that, and risks everything.

Sage has been a pretty careless president of the HOTs, that´s all the mystery about her. Quinn is eager to take control, and Sage has given her that control because it´s the easy thing to do. It´s funny that her dissertation is about "macro and micro management". Her macro and micro management of the HOTs has been awful. But she´s going to pay for that, I´m afraid

Tadpol · Dec 22, 2021

J.A.L. said:
We´ll see. It would go against all postmodern political correctness. I know that no screen writer for movies, TV Shows or AAA games in western countries would dare to create a plotline like that one. Otherwise it would be well seen.

You exaggerate.

Apart from the extremists, no one will be shocked by the MC who ends up with a solo route for Maya or Josy.

In addition, the MC is not a religious extremist (Maya's father at worst) who gets involved in a relationship between two girls with the sole aim of separating them.

kyrlian · Dec 22, 2021

shazba said:
Nope, there's really no reason for him to hurry things up. We just don't want to wait so long, but that's all there is to it.

I agree with you, but yes there is another thing: the tech.

Long development cycles tend to get outdated in the tech department. New models, new render techniques, new animations come up regularly. BaDIK Ch.1 was outstanding, best in class with no competition whatsoever, but right now there are games with the same (or even better) quality renders and animations, in a couple years the competition and new developments will be real hard for BaDIK.

DPC has improved the quality too but he is tied to the original models and the tools he uses and the room for improvement is limited, if he stretches the development for too many years the game will be somewhat obsolete, so he has a window of maybe two or three more years to finish the game and stay on top.

mindern · Dec 22, 2021

kyrlian said:
I agree with you, but yes there is another thing: the tech.

Long development cycles tend to get outdated in the tech department. New models, new render techniques, new animations come up regularly. BaDIK Ch.1 was outstanding, best in class with no competition whatsoever, but right now there are games with the same (or even better) quality renders and animations, in a couple years the competition and new developments will be real hard for BaDIK.

DPC has improved the quality too but he is tied to the original models and the tools he uses and the room for improvement is limited, if he stretches the development for too many years the game will be somewhat obsolete, so he has a window of maybe two or three more years to finish the game and stay on top.

Given how many of the highest rated games on here were knocked together in whatever that Illusion game is I don’t think he has to worry about render quality for a long long time.

Yeah, maybe the models will be marginally outdated but is anybody going to criticising the game because you can’t see capillaries under UV light? As long as there’s a consistent set of models from start to finish I can’t imagine it will be an issue.

znar25 · Dec 22, 2021

CaptainNugget said:
Another day without knowing who i want, bella is just perfect but the age thing, jill is the sweetest girl, and sage is hot but sweet in this last episodes
Who would you choose?

Each path, by itself, is worthy, the reward is all the stars in the night sky.

And the debacle with Bella, don't give up, it has to be fixable somehow. She is worth it.

J.A.L. · Dec 22, 2021

mindern said:
Given how many of the highest rated games on here were knocked together in whatever that Illusion game is I don’t think he has to worry about render quality for a long long time.

Yeah, maybe the models will be marginally outdated but is anybody going to criticising the game because you can’t see capillaries under UV light? As long as there’s a consistent set of models from start to finish I can’t imagine it will be an issue.

How much money in Patreon are making those highest rated on here games using Illusion models, compared with BaDIK? One good think about BaDIK is that is showing game developers that there is a market for quality porn games with a complex story, good music, well developed characters, etc. Right now, BaDIK barely has competence, as far as I know. All games I know are pretty amateur compared with BaDIK. But probably in the future there will devs that will imitate DPC and will create profesional porn games. And DPC will have to do something to not being left behind.

Warscared · Dec 22, 2021

ffsage said:
How could you call those 2D renders shit man!? They are the Picassos of modern era! View attachment 1557165

yes and i still got the same problem with these renders as i do with picasso! how is one supose to jerk off at those?

znar25 · Dec 22, 2021

OFT said:
There is absolutely NOTHING that needs to be fixed in this animation:

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I don't get all the static about Jill's teeth. No, they're not her best feature, but they're not that bad, either. If I can throw out a quote from
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, "She was a good kisser, but her breath was stinking. But so what? You don't get rid of a Rolls-Royce because it has a dent in it." (Royce name purely coincidental.)

I'm guilty of mocking things far beyond how much they actually bother me simply for the fun of it (Madam is one), and if someone is pretending to be overly triggered by her chompers, then I feel you.

But if you're seriously disgusted by them, what makes them so much worse than Sage's?

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Josy's dental issue is that half the time they have that weird mirrored gray hue to them.

The big problem with Bella's teeth is that we never get to see them in a smile.

Maya probably has the best teeth of all the LIs, and she seems to be the least popular.

But, to each his own, I guess. Personally, I find her to be the most beautiful in the game overall (not my favorite girl, but she's up there).

And speaking of Jill, permit me to segue into some thoughts on her lewd scene.

All the Jill blue-balling, and I mean every damn second of it, was worth it. When I saw Jill do this...

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...my heart stopped and I thought, "Oh, yeah! IT'S ON!"

And then the MC said this...

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...and I yelled at the screen, "WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON, YOU MORON???"

I thought the way DPC presented that whole scene was very well done. The only thing I think should have been included (and I go back & forth on this) was an actual indication of Jill climaxing (did she even climax?). I'm OK with it missing, mainly because she was a virgin, and Maya didn't finish her first time, either, and realistically, expecting that might have been a bit too much to ask. However, what the fuck does porn have to do with reality?

So, I'm now anticipating making her cum, just like I am for Riona. Maybe I'll be able to accomplish both in the same scene...

The Jill story is very sweet. Still though, having her get plowed in her own room and the whole prep mansion hearing it would have been gold.

Darkdevil66 · Dec 22, 2021

J.A.L. said:
Even a 26% of the people would like to get rid of Maya in exchange of the return of a really unimportant character like Mona. I suspect that they would like to get rid of her even without the reward of Mona's return as a potential Li Josy, on the other hand, doesn´t generate that kind of repulsion.

What should we complain about ? There's nothing to say about Josy. As an independent LI, she has no issue. She has a tuition, she has a positive relationship with her dad, she instantly befriended Jill, Becky, half of the HOTs and quickly became a popular girl. She has been avoiding Quinn & Tommy for several episodes to the point and both of them don't even give a shit about her. There's no stalker, rivals, pervert, bully, blackmailer, former boyfriend/husband around her. Her insecurities about her height is more like a joke. Her only real issues are by extension Maya's issues. She has no proper plot beyond being Maya's cute sidekick.

When they're alone, both her and the MC act like a perfectly sane couple. She's clearly happier with him. That's why, the throuple is one of DPC's biggest mistakes. It doesn't work and diminish both Maya and Josy as characters. It's all about Maya's issues. Their most significant scenes appear when they're respectively alone with the MC. Even the porn factor is lame, their threesome scenes suck, DPC did a better job with side girls.

J.A.L. said:
I don´t know if that feeling is shared in Patreon (the only place that actually matters), but I suspect that, if DPC creates a path in which Tremolo smoothly operates to steal Josy from Maya´s arms, a lot of people would be glad to follow it with no regrets, and even would enjoy with Maya´s tears.

Sure, playing the victim card doesn't work anymore.

znar25 · Dec 22, 2021

Yeah, Bianca is thinking about it.

Question, would it be....

1. MC visits her house to help with something or,
2. Bianca getting plowed in her wedding dress by MC while her husband is behind the camera?

felicemastronzo · Dec 22, 2021

Darkdevil66 said:
What should we complain about ? There's nothing to say about Josy. As an independent LI, she has no issue. She has a tuition, she has a positive relationship with her dad, she instantly befriended Jill, Becky, half of the HOTs and quickly became a popular girl. She has been avoiding Quinn & Tommy for several episodes to the point and both of them don't even give a shit about her. There's no stalker, rivals, pervert, bully, blackmailer, former boyfriend/husband around her. Her insecurities about her height is more like a joke. Her only real issues are by extension Maya's issues. She has no proper plot beyond being Maya's cute sidekick.

When they're alone, both her and the MC act like a perfectly sane couple. She's clearly happier with him. That's why, the throuple is one of DPC's biggest mistakes. It doesn't work and diminish both Maya and Josy as characters. It's all about Maya's issues. Their most significant scenes appear when they're respectively alone with the MC. Even the porn factor is lame, their threesome scenes suck, DPC did a better job with side girls.

unfortunately this is the case, the 3-way relationship statistically, for the space given to it, does not exist and overall is always inferior to individual relationships

I'm not satisfied, but I play it for free so I can be content.

Asian-Boy · Dec 22, 2021

if DPC said that he made the plot based on his experience, then how does he explain about the tampons and vodka?

ename144 · Dec 22, 2021

felicemastronzo said:
they are in a trouple, doing things together should be the norm not the exception. every time they take individual intimate moments they actually move away from the troupe, when Josy says she likes him to call her his girlfriend, that she feels safe with him, she actually moves away from the troupe.
they didn't sleep together even once in season 2.
I don't see what MC's statement has to do with it, it's ok to have sex with each other but not together?

it seems really simplistic to me this idea of "progression" which was the same as why Jill would have sex in the credits, "it's not time yet". after having sex at 3 by "Quinn's order" they should have done it by their own choice as soon as possible just to erase that moment, instead Mc still has to thank Quinn....

They agreed to explore their relationship as a group, but that doesn't necessarily mean all of them participating with wild abandon all the time. Certainly not at first. And with Maya worried she might not really be into boys, and Josy worried about moving too fast (and the MC insisting he still wants to date other girls

) it makes sense to me that they are in no rush to dive into group sex at this point.

I do share your annoyance that the three of them never spent a night together in Season 2 (especially the way the MC ditches them to stay with Bella in Episode 5), but in the end that's just a side effect of the game deliberately ignoring their relationship while it sets up the crossroads. I've already ranted about how that was handled, and it's not like the throuple was the only romance that suffered from it.

about lynette's diary: what backstory would have given interesting as far as MC is concerned? even seeing footage of MC's past 18 birthdays would have been backstory, but it's interesting if it makes you understand something.
as of today we understand from the diary that maybe in some way, Lynette might know or at least be connected to Jill's family, which was something that has been talked about forever.

Bella's flashback is backstory, but what did it show us? that Bella worked in a library... I'm still shocked (if it showed Bella is actually the Sixth Sense child, DPC just killed another LI without the need for a fire)

The diary shows us who Lynette was before she met Neil. That doesn't strike you as important?

Likewise, Bella's flashback tells us she was wild in her youth but had become far more risk averse even before her marriage failed. That's not the most shocking of revelations, but it is new information we could only speculate about before.

felicemastronzo said:
for the way DPC has handled the story so far I find it more hard to see how it could go differently... in chapter 7 the trouple seemed more dead than alive
it's a continuous sneaking around, Josy is specialized in talking bad about Maya when she's absent

DPC wants to keep his patreons happy, so the ending in which the two girls separate will be there for sure, 100%, probably in a way in which MC doesn't look too much like the culprit of this separation (when he clearly is), more certain than the one that the 3 make it through their story, which is very likely, but in my opinion less certain.

One of the interesting tidbits in the official walkthrough was learning that the MC offering his room to Maya and Josy is technically optional content. It obviously only happens if you're on M&J's path, but apparently it also only happens if you went to visit Maya or Josy during the free roam in Episode 7. Make of that what you will, but to me it suggests maintaining the throuple is still a thing, even if it's in the background.

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TajaRrR · Dec 22, 2021

kyrlian said:
I think someone said in the game that Sage doesn't like drugs.

But I agree with you, and people make a big deal about something that is not that terrible. Drugs are "tolerated" in campuses (With some restrictions ofc, you don't smoke in front of the security guard). Statistics show 45% of college students smoked weed in 2019-2020.

That means in any random real college there are hundreds of small dealers like Quinn and thousands of smokers. Yes, it's illegal and drugs are bad for your health but it's not Ted Bundy levels, just one of many unadressed issues in society.

Exactly, when I was in college with around 30k people I knew where to buy stuff from at least 10 people and I wasn't even looking so I bet there was much more of them just like your statistics said.
And Yea it's not like Quinn is selling guns or something, drugs are bad but it's not that level bad.

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